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Welcome to the debut of Shift Drink! Long hours on sore feet and wearied coworkers cramped side-by-side in the pursuit of perfection is typical in the service industry. But it isn’t until the final diner has gone and the last tab is closed; when there are no more pots to scrub or glasses to polish; that’s when the first shift drinks are poured and the stories start to flow. Every week, Eddie Kim and Mathew Ramsey will share a shift drink and swap war stories from behind the line with chefs, bartenders, bakers, brewers, and anyone who touches this all-encompassing industry. Un-edited, no-holds-bar, and personal, these brief moments bleed into life stories, past and future aspirations, philosophy, life lessons and every shot in between.

This show records and broadcasts LIVE on Full Service Radio from the lobby of the LINE DC in Adams Morgan, Washington DC.

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    Josh Phillips, The Master and the Margarita

    This week, Josh Phillips, master mezcalier and co-owner of Espita Mezcaleria, unscrews the top on an array of agave spirits and dives down the nerdy corn hole that is nixtamalization. Josh talks Craigslist connections, tortilla grinds, and offers just the tip on buying mezcal… And, when Eddie goes high, Mathew ends up shorter.

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    Top Jefes: Brooke Williamson & Antonia Lofaso

    In this episode, we’re graced by not one, but two badass Arch-Angelenos and restaurateurs of Top Chef fame - Brooke Williamson & Antonia Lofaso. We discuss the dichotomy of awards and the awarded, general rules of thumb, and Tequila earns two exclamations!! Eddie plays el Diablo’s advocate and rallies with Brooke over tennis terminology, while Mathew dons his “cheeseburger-life coach” hat for Antonia.

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    Sweet / Dry with DC Public Library and Domestique

    An exploration of the intersection between taste and identity, presented by Domestique Wine and the DC Public Library. Including special guest panelists Jon Bonné, Lee Campbell, W. Ralph Eubanks, Millicent Souris, Genevieve Villamora.

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    Jon Bonné Jovi’s Greatest Hits

    For this episode we open up our Mezcal cabinet to professional wino and tastemaker, Jon Bonné, senior contributing editor for PUNCH, former wine editor for The San Francisco Chronicle, and author of “The New California Wine.” Jon pontificates on going au natural, Gewurzt case scenarios, and mousey wine traps. Eddie comes out as a Riesling apologist, Mathew makes a dough confession, and Jon returns full circular on a certain incision.

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    Millicent Souris on Serving the Underserved

    This week we scour off the rust and dust off the cobwebs to start off a new season of Shift Drink with Millicent Souris, former chef turned educator and advocate for the underserved at St. John’s Bread and Life. The activist helps us parse the difference between old/new schools of cooks, nourishing the privileged few/needy hundreds, and chef volunteerism/tourism. Millicent reminisces on her prison-tinged last visit to D.C., Mathew comes back like a bronzed Greek god, and Eddie crushes on the Aperol spritz.

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    Kristen Kish Keeps Pop Star Dreams in the Lone Star State

    This week we keep it weird in the kitchen with Austin’s Kristen Kish, Top Chef alumna and chef of the newly minted Arlo Grey at the LINE Hotel. We unearth a few lines to add to her Wikipedia page, such as her notable singing skills, the do’s and don’ts of keeping it vulnerable in her kitchen, and her penchant for chicken fingers. Kristen opts out of the cowboy-chic, Eddie digs into the meaty side of Yelp, while Mathew gets torn and tater-ed with burger envy.

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    Reunion and Rivalry in Koreatown with Chefs Deuki Hong and Esther Choi

    This week we put on a Korean double-feature with chef siblings-in-arms Esther Choi (mokbar and Miss Yu, NYC) and Deuki Hong (Sunday Bird, SF). The cross-country reunion sparks discussion on staying connected to one’s passion, satiating a bong appetite, and owning the “a” word -- "authenticity." Esther stokes a sibling rivalry, Deuki lives his best glamping life, Eddie finds milk in the banana stand, and Mathew balks at being called a banana split.

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    Can Chefs Mei Lin and Jon Yao Bring Old Memories to New LA?

    This week we do a City of Angels "bang bang," with LA chefs Mei Lin of the newly minted Nightshade and James Beard-nominated Jon Yao of Kato. We reminisce on childhood foods, navigate the celebrity chef limelight, compare camaraderie in LA vs. DC, and cut deep into kitchen accidents. Jon contemplates a life as a La Croix-somm, Mei prefers to cook hearts -- not break them, Mathew finds love in his coconut, and Eddie learns the art of back-to-back dining.

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    Ice Cream and the Art of Rooftop Maintenance with D.C.’s Milk Cult

    This week we join forces with D.C.’s double dragons of ice cream, Ed Cornell and Patrick Griffith of Milk Cult, to take down the innovation/boredom balance, tapping into cult classics, and the art of rooftop maintenance. Ed and Patrick take us through a Hole in the Sky, Eddie belabors ear holes, and Mathew reminisces on corndog glory holes.

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    No Creative Still Waters for Cult Brewers Brian Strumke and Mike Van Hall

    This week nomadic beer cultist Brian Strumke and visual disrupter Mike Van Hall of Stillwater Artisanal search for creative rules to break, from flipping the sacred to Action Bronson collabs. Mike and Brian hate on coriander and triangles, Mathew mourns the death of Jon Snow, and Eddie feels the wet-nat

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    Daniel Boulud -- Michelin Chef, Crab Smuggler, Viper Bootlegger

    This week legendary French Chef Daniel Boulud confesses some of his more illicit activities down on the hometown farm, cooking for his icon Jacques Pepin, and true egg-celence. Daniel gets Tina Turnt-up, Mathew and Chef Boulud develop a lasting “frenchip” over cooking for mom, and Eddie contracts the itch to bring crab shacks to the city of lights.

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    Intelligent Design In D.C.’s Ecosystem with Edit Lab

    In our 50th AND sadly, FINAL episode... designers Lauren Winter and Brian Miller of Edit Lab manifest their own destinations, one neighborhood at a time. Lauren and Brian embrace the imperfect, Eddie and Mathew throw design trends at the wall to see what sticks, and Alexya presses the big red button to initiate our conscious uncoupling

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    Little Little Chef Cagla in the Middle

    This week we crack open one of D.C’s most central, but looked over, badasses in the kitchen, Green Almond Pantry’s Cagla Onal. Cagla stocks our cupboard with goodies fit for the soul, but made for her daughter, and recounts choosing onions over economics. Mathew looks for the green hook-up, and Eddie goes full-Korean over Turkish-BBQ.

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    Chicago’s Bad Hunter Fashions #LifeGarnishes From Lemons

    This week, the Bad Hunter bar crew/dance troupe brings nothing but good vibes all the way from Chicago and talks about their path to phoenix-ing from a grease fire, house rules with Bruno Mars, and #LifeGarnishes. Bad Hunter swipes right on D.C., Mathew swipes left on deep dish, and Eddie is OK with being not OK.

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    Tail Up Goat’s Bill Jensen and Bon Jovi, On a Bed of Rosés

    This week we visit the glitz, glamour, and denim of wine with Bill Jensen of James Beard Award-nominated Tail Up Goat. Bill doubles-down on a storied D.C. neighborhood, Mathew gets a little brown on his nose, and Eddie pines for big beers -- and he cannot lie.

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    How Max Kuller Stays Forever Young and Hungry in the Industry

    This week we take the leap -- or just fall head first -- with Max Kuller, owner of Estadio, on his technicolor interests, somm-ing as a vegetarian, and breathing new life into old concepts. Max breaks down the short and long of his “rice program,” Eddie cleans up “Doggy-style,” and Mathew “screws the Pooch.”

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    Walking the Creative Line with Carlos Raba of Clavel

    This week we guard and grapple with Chef Carlos Raba of Clavel over the transformation from corporate to creative, the taco revolution in Baltimore, and finding art in the martial and culinary. Carlos fires his wife, Mathew taps out, and Eddie reveals his porcine side.

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    No Borders for Hospitality with Carlie Steiner of Himitsu

    This week boss in the streets and freak in the spreadsheets Carlie Steiner of Himitsu and Chufly Imports decants her break-neck restaurant opening, a concept’s longevity, and love of the Chicago dog. Carlie croons for Alanis, Mathew points a finger at Ariana, and Eddie embraces a nip-slip from Adam.

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    Holiday Extravaganza and Industry Roast of D.C.’s Bon Vivant Jason Mader

    This week bar maven and food dandy, Jason Mader brings the holiday spirit, and we all get the drunker for it. Seasonal ghost guests of ShiftDrink past and future - Kat Hamidi Adam Bernbach Chantal Tseng and Melissa Konishi come to roast Mader's chestnuts( but mostly love) ... AND a new star is born; the Chilito Royale (just add caviar).

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    Pony and a Pop: Bonus Episode with David Zilber of Noma’s Fermentation Lab

    Need an extra shifty for the road now that the holiday season is upon us? We’ve got you covered with a bonus Shift Drink featuring David Zilber, head of Noma’s Fermentation Lab. We caught up with David after his booktalk with Rene Redzepi, hashing out his role as Noma’s ferment-ologist, a garbage photographer, and a collaborative food innovator.

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    The Many Hats and Flames of Hearth-tender Ben Eisendrath of Grillworks

    This week we stoke the embers of innovation, visit the red planet, and unearth the Promethean origins of Ben Eisendrath of Grillworks. Ben flexes his photog muscles, Mathew rehabilitates from his hamburglar past, and Eddie defends mumbo, the midwest, and everything in between.

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    Tom Sietsema of The Washington Post on Anonymity, Negronis, and #MeToo in dining

    This week we wig out, literally, with Tom Sietsema, restaurant citic for The Washington Post, hashing out critiquing in the #MeToo era, getting creative with aliases, and retiring his quill and ink for good. Tom, gets some sage advice from kitchen confidant Julia Child, Mathew reminisces over his origins at the SF Chronicle with Michael Bauer, and Eddie blushes red over his negroni.

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    Refugees, Bees Knees, and Feces with Multimedia Journalist Victoria Milko

    This week the shit hits the fan as a hungover Mathew and a second-fiddle Eddie swap stories with D.C.-industry vet and multimedia journalist Victoria Milko. Victoria reminisces on her time in the district, as well as her work abroad, Mathew pines over Chris Pine -- again -- and Eddie reveals his penchant for floral prints.

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    Searching for the Soul of Sake with Jessica Joly of Tokyo Record Bar and Sake Discoveries

    This week we strip down to our skivvies with sake royalty, Jessica Joly of Tokyo Record Bar and Miss Sake USA. Jessica lays bare her favorite sake/street food pairings, the future of sake in America, and the thread leading to her career in the industry. Mathew plots his next lobster hotbox and Eddie forms a Toni Braxton cover band.

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    Michelin, Moxie, and Minutiae with Jenn Knowles of Mirabelle

    This week we set the table for a ‘drinktank’ on finding passions in the details, rebirthing a restaurant, and the truth about mixing your liquors with Jenn Knowles, general manager and beverage director of Mirabelle DC. Jenn doubles as a dining room battlefield medic, Mathew shows off his shaolin taco fist, and Eddie comtemplates jacking the cheese cart.

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    Simple Flavors and Vermut Love with Basque Country Author Marti Buckley

    This week, chef and food correspondent Marti Buckley joins us from the cradle of pintxos and Michelin stars talk about her new cookbook "Basque Country." Eddie and Mathew basque in the glow of fond memories of San Sebastian, while getting the historical skewer on pinxtos, vermouth culture, and Marti’s Southern choir roots.

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    Champagne (Vinegar) Wishes and Caviar Dreams with Sarah and Isaiah of Keepwell Vinegar

    This week we we get taken to therapy over bad mothers, deceptive black garlic, and the fermentation waiting game with Sarah Conezio and Isaiah Billington of Keepwell Vinegar and White Rose Miso. Eddie lusts for a bucket o’ McNuggets dripping in gochujang, Mathew is nothing but Champagne wishes and Caviar Dreams, and Isaiah and Sarah owe Chicago an apology.

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    Bread, Bagels, and Branca with Daniela Moreira of Timber Pizza Co.

    This week we play matchmaker to carbs and cheese, lox and bagels, and fernet and coke, with Daniela Moreira of Timber Pizza Co. and Call Your Mother Deli. Mathew packs his bags for PIZZA CAMP, Eddie dreams of Argentine aperitivo life, and Daniela works through complicated work relationships with her pitching arm.

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    Overrated Cocktails, Interviewing the Masters, Living with Two Spirit Animals with Damon Boelte, of The Speakeasy Podcast and Grand Army Bar

    This week we get dual-flanked by two podcasting greats, Damon Boelte of The Speakeasy podcast and our very own Jack Inslee of Full Service Radio. We breakdown many-a-cocktail, including the perfect martini, the overrated aviation, the doubly-garnished manhattan, and the hard start shot. Damon reminisces on jamming with King Cocktail, Jack recounts his favorite interviews, Alison represents the rickey, and Eddie forgets all his lines.

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    The New American Knife, Putting Steel to Stone, and Honing a Brand with District Cutlery Edge Master Derek Swanson

    This week we cut a swath through the studio with co-founder and edge master of District Cutlery, Derek Swanson. We put a knife-point on the future of American knife-making, re-honing a businesses direction, and humble beginnings. Mathew takes off his cutlery training wheels, Eddie pays tribute to the Gold standard in food criticism, and Derek lives his best day off. Oh, and everyone gets ICED.

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    Overcoming the Hiccups, Living the Startup Life, and The Beauty in Simplicity with Tory Pratt, Founder of TRUE Syrups and Garnishes

    This week we double up on the entrepreneuses with guest host Kat Hamidi of Capitoline Vermouth and Tory Pratt of TRUE Syrups and Garnishes as we discuss the move from international to pre-prohibition, the fine line in educating your customers, and the perils of peeling ginger. Kat puts the “mansplainers” on notice, Tory picks her Philly favorite, and Eddie sends much love out to a Greg in North Dakota

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    Remembering Our Industry Giants, Mixing Up the Dirty Martini, and Capturing Kitchen Moments with Marcella Kriebel, Illustrator and Cookbook Author of Mi Comida Latina and Comida Cubana

    This week we get salty and shaken over the history of the dirty martini, encapsulating food moments in watercolors, and reaching across borders through food with illustrator and cookbook author Marcella Kriebel. Mathew pines for a Captain Kirk sighting, Eddie reveals a new project, Adam Greenberg sheds his tapas crown, and Marcella fails at fermentation.

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    Loyalty to Frozen Traditions, Goodbyes to Humble Beginnings, and Love at First Ayahuasca with Rob Duncan of Dolcezza Gelato

    We ring in SEASON TWO of Shift Drink with gelato maven Rob Duncan of Dolcezza Gelato as he takes use through his ayahuasca and “sherbert” experiences, early mistakes in bringing Argentinian gelato to D.C., and the fine line between tradition and innovation. Rob comes out of his grandmother’s closet with arms aflutter, Mathew reveals his radio face 2.0, and Eddie comes back with a few hardware upgrades.

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    Shift Drink: Industry Power Hour

    This week we raise the stakes and go full Shift Drink with our first Industry Power Hour. A veritable russian roulette of shift drinks, we chat with Adam Greenberg, Andrew Limberg, Brian Oh, Joahna Hernandez and Sarah Gordon, and see who lasts the full hour.

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    Rethinking Livestock, Chef’s Table, and the Perfect Day with Matt Rales and Abby Fuller of APD Farm

    This week we chew the cud with Matt Rales and Abby Fuller of APD Farm and Chef's Table on what it means to graze cattle in nature’s image, jumping from city-to-farm life, and tapping into your inner wolf. Mathew drops a carbon (sequestration) bomb, Eddie doubles down on yakitori, Abby reveals her internet stardom, and Matt lets out his inner Frenchie -- much to Charlotte’s chagrin

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    D.C.'s Tight-knit Locals in Food, the Cult of Chilito, and Fat Cat Love with Ana Marin and Scott McIntosh of Meats & Foods

    It's a sausage party in the Full Service Radio studio when Ana Marin and Scott McIntosh of Meats & Foods share a hair of the dog as we riff on D.C.'s halfsmoke origins, partnering up with your partner, and showing love for industry locals. Mathew plots smuggling White Castle into Mexico, Eddie's head implodes over chilito secrets, Scott relives pizza nostalgia -- good and bad -- and Anna wants to fuck everything.

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    That New New-American Cuisine, Big Announcements, and Burger-dom with Chefs Alex McCoy and Gerald Addison

    We go global with chefs Gerald Addison of Maydan and Alex McCoy of Lucky Buns and break down the new definition of New-American cuisine, navigating airport security, and working through our mayo-phobias. Mathew makes a big announcement, Gerald relives his malt liquor childhood, and Alex hearts scotchy scotch scotch.

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    Adam Bernbach, Bar Director for 2 Birds 1 Stone, doi moi, Estadio and Proof

    This week on Shift Drink, Mat & Eddie are joined by Adam Bernbach, the award-winning Bar Director for 2 Birds 1 Stone, doi moi, Estadio and Proof. Adam has been acclaimed both for his singular creations and for his reverential execution of the classics. His drinks have been featured in such notable publications as The Washington Post, Food & Wine, and Southern Living.

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